please help me. i smoked too much k 12. >> it's called spice and it's killing across the country. >> this is sitting in the freezer? >> yeah. on top that have meat. >> fox files goes on a raid to the store where they sell it. and living large, dictator style. >> it's bling, glitz, over the top. she went from real housewife to skinny girl mogul. >> i'm excited to be here. >> we're behind the scenes of bethenny frankle's latest venture. >> i'm not afraid to own it and

be who i am. meet the band who turned the star spangled banner into a rock anthem. >> you're carving your own path. >> we are a counter culture to the counter culture. >> that's next on fox files. >> my son nicholas was full of life, very energetic. he loved the outdoors. >> it was a typical wednesday afternoon, september 2011, colorado springs, colorado. 19-year-old nicholas kol bert checked in with his mom stephanie before heading out with friends. >> they were going to run over to the quick stop and get some smokes. he said, love ya, mom. bye. he left and i went on to do

other errands that i needed to do. i came home and i thought he was sleeping. i tried to shake him awake and he wasn't sleeping. he was gone. >> at 4:40 p.m. nicholas was dead. what would surprise many parents and stephanie was what killed her son was sold to him at a convenience store. this quick stop which is not part of any franchise is on south shelton road in colorado springs. he bought the drug for about $25. nicholas had smoked synthetic marijuana also known

since it's being sold with other convenience store items i thought it was legal. >> david woodruff is one of her attorneys. >> there were two chemicals in that stuff that are banned substances. >> spice delivers a powerful and dangerous high and that list of bann banned substances is growing at a federal and state level. fox files was shown the actual package of mr. smiley that killed nicholas. >> the one nicholas had taken was packaged as bubble gum flavored. some of the other flavors that mr. smiley comes in is mango, potpourri and blueberry

potpourri. >> some of the packages say not for human consumption. what does that mean? >> nothing, absolutely nothing. one of my favorites is they stamp this is not illegal on the back of it as well. you can't stamp that on cocaine and make it legal. that's a employ to try to get teens to purchase it. they call it synthetic marijuana but there is no pot in this right? >> no. >> reporter: harmless herbs are often used in spice but what's sprayed often them can kill you. the contents of every package is a mystery. getting high on spice is like playing russian roulette. >> perhaps the idea is if you are buying it from a convenience store it can't be as dangerous as a drug dealer down the street? >> exactly.

they don't think it's like cocaine or heroin that they're buying at night on a street corner. >> this is very different from the drugs that people used to talk about in the 60s or 70s. >> here's how it started off really. these were one of the first ones, the roxys. they were geared more towards teens, 17 to 19 to older. they started changing the packaging and then they started going after our 12 to 14-year-old. >> they look like trading card things. >> right. maui wowy. k2. all different kinds of packaging. i find it to be despicable. >> the high or the buzz from spice wasn't like marijuana. it was more like crack or meth amphetamines. >> michael is recovering from his spice addiction in aurora. >> i had to keep smoking over and over, probably every hour to maintain some sort of high.

you were paranoid. you didn't want to eat, see people, very isolating. >> it can cause psychotic episodes, ahughes nations, paranoia, tremors. >> people started using them in europe in the mid to early 2000s an then around 2009 we started to notice that people in the united states were using them. >> this is an emergency room physician at the university of colorado hospital. in the summer ever 2013 colorado had an epidemic of spice casualties with three deaths and 260 people rushed to emergency rooms. >> with were at a point where we were getting five to six cases per day. these patients come in with fast heart rates, high blood pressure, very agitated and their temperature goes up dangerously high. >> please help me. i smoked too much k2. >> according to the dea, calls about synthetic drugs to poison

control centers rocketed from 3200 in 2010 to more than 13,000 a year later. >> when you look at the range of drugs that you have to deal with here in the state of florida, which ones concern you the most? >> molly of course. >> other synthetics include molly and ex stasy. >> it's been glamorized in songs we're hearing from singers. >> madonna for example. >> miley cyrus is singing about it. >> miley cyrus recently told rolling stones magazine that molly was, quote, a happy drug. >> our teens look up to people like that and people are dying from it. it's extremely toxic. >> so toxic that in august of

2013 at the electric zoo dance music festival in new york, 20-year-old olivia and 23-year-old jeffrey died from overdoses of mdma. she reportedly said she had taken six hits of molly. as a result of the deaths, the scheduled three day festival where a ticket can cost as much as 400 bucks was shut down by the city after two days. >> the bottom line is you see people doing drugs that shouldn't be doing drugs and you see the fatal consequences. when people want to go down that slippery slope and say it's just fun, it's not fun. there are two families that are not going to have their children coming home. >> coming up, fox files goes on a spice rage. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil.

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breaking coverage of the agreement that has been reached between six world powers and the islamic republic of iran over its nuclear program. to the left of your screen you're looking at the white house. as we wait for the president of the united states to deliver a statement on iran from the state dining room we're told, britain, china, france, germany, russia and of course the united states on one side of the negotiation table tonight. iran on the other in geneva, switzerland. what would it take or cost since iran has been seeking relief since its economy has buckled under the pressure of sanctions on that country. what would it take to bring them to the table and keep them there. now a deal with a country who has held americans hostage in the past and flexed evil throughout the years. joining me is james rosen. james, what are you hearing? i'm told that james is going to

be joining us momentarily as we try to get up the line with him. again, we are waiting for the president to come out and we do know that throughout the evening -- and if we want we can toggle between this and the live look in switzerland because the hotel where these talks have been going on for four days started emptying out and even they're getting set up. we'll hear from the president and we may go live to geneva and hear from the secretary of the state john kerry but for now the president we're told will speak first of course in all of this as a monumental deal has been reached with iran over its nuclear program. we're getting word from senior administration officials to our producers in washington d.c. the deal on background could possibly be looking at limited sanctions in place.

in fact, we're also seeing this by the associated press. they're reported there would be some relief in those sanctions for iran. but the big point in all of this was the fact that iran has said that it would not make a deal unless it could continue to enrich uranium. the united states and the other allies have said they would not make a deal unless iran discontinued enriching uranium. now i'm waiting to be joined either by -- james rosen are you with us? >> yes, i am. >> what are you hearing tonight? >> reporter: it's been a long time in the making, in fact, ten years or more. if we go back to the point that we first learned that iran was enriching uranium. specifically we've heard so much about whether the west will

recollection a right to enrich on the part of iran, but it goes beyond that and i'll be looking to hear specifics on what iran is allowed to do with its stock pile of uranium already, whether it can be put to indigenous use, whether iran will be made to mix down any enriched uranium to the point of the 20 percent level which is not suitable for use in a nuclear weapon. these are somewhat technical details, but they get to how expansive a program the west intends to let the iranians have. >> it was interesting, these talks were only suppose today go for two days and now it has stretched into the fifth day because it's later there than it is here. as far as we know, the talks originally, officially about four or five hours ago has been ended for the night. as these things sometimes

happen, they kept talking behind closed doors and now a deal is reached. i want everyone to know we are inching past the time in which the president was set to speak at 10:15 p.m. we're told he was going to be on time. when he pops up, james, you and i will quit talking and we'll listen to what the president will tell us about what it will take to do a deal with iran. >> reporter: we should keep in mind that history is littered with arms control agreements that had some interim periods fixed for them and then didn't work out. in this case, as we all know, the west has been negotiating with iran for a six-month freeze on enrichment above the 3.5 percent level, during which time a final end state or end status would be worked out during those

six months. >> now, we are looking at geneva switzerland and we're seeing some of the dignitaries at the podium. if it seems like it gets to something we'll want to listen into, again the details are first going to come from the president of the united states and then we'll fold out from there. james, i'm curious to know with all of this, the white house hasn't really said much today. we saw secretary of state john kerry get there rather quickly. we saw him stay longer than he was anticipated but not a lot out of the administration on what has been going on. >> reporter: right. i mean, there has been a general expectation that some kind of accord might be reached with iran some time soon. secretary of state kerry had traveled to geneva in the last couple of weeks and tried to finalize the deal at that time without success. we've been waiting for something like this for some time. >> we are getting some

indications, are you hearing what might be in there? i know ap is reporting that the nuclear deal does not include recognition of iran's right to enrich uranium. that would be a big point if, in fact, that stays the case. >> reporter: right. there are different ways to recognize a right. you can allow a certain number of centrifuges to continue spinning. the question is can iran use the enriched uranium that it produces, can they put it to indigenous use. that's one of the terms i'll be looking for when i hear some announcement of the deal here, harris. >> again, so everybody is caught up as they tune into fox news channel right now, we are in the middle of our continuing live coverage now, breaking news, six world powers and the islamic regime of the iran have reached some sort of a deal. we're getting drips and drabs but we want to confirm it on our

own, the president of the united states is getting set to speak. he's about three minutes past the point in which we thought he would be talking right now. the press core is assembled. this is the state dining room that we're told he'll speak from. we're waiting for confirmation from him about what's in this deal. james rosen is joining us on the phone and judith miller is going to be with us at any moment now. as we talks i want to ask her about that part of the world. i understand that the foreign minister has left that hotel this evening and we may have some video of that, of him leaving tonight. the world powers met briefly, about an hour ago and then we started hearing that some sort of a deal had been reached, but the iranian foreign minister as we're told was not in those meetings, that very late meeting about an hour ago. you see a lot of commotion outside of the hotel in geneva switzerland right now as people

are arriving back. james, without a whole lot of detail as to where they might have gone, we're seeing people all dressed up. it's a hotel so who knows if these people are part of the scene. we've got microphones at the ready. >> reporter: something else to look for is what the western powers will be giving up in this deal, how much in sanctions. the iranian economy has been hobbled by international sanctions on its gas sector and automobile sector. it will be interesting to see what we, meaning the west and the allied powers give up. >> the associated press is doing their own detail on this tonight. they're reporting that some $4.2 billion will have been given up in some sort of form as aid to iran. if that holds up, that's a huge

chunk of cash and it's in foreign currency as i'm reading here, james. any thoughts on that? >> reporter: right. i mean, some of the critics of a deal with iran such as the israelis, the saudis had suggested that the west was toying with the idea of alleviating the sanctions on iran to the tune of 40 to $50 billion a year. the obama administration privately said no, we're talking about 6 to $10 billion in sanctions released that the west would be giving up. again, this is a six-month deal during which iran purportedly would only be allowed to enrich uranium to 3.5 percent during those six months, an end state for the iran nuclear program would be negotiated by the powers. >> i'm getting a statement from the white house. i want to bring in judith miller, fox news contributor by phone. >> hi, how are you?

>> this is a big deal. if in fact some things hold true, it would look like there has been a deal that involves an initial six-month step which includes significant limits on iran's nuclear program and begins to address the most urgent concerns that the united states and others have had including iran's enrichment capabilities. this is coming directly from the white house. on first blush your reaction. >> i've watched these negotiations go back and forth. i've watched the iranian government profess its desire to be more pragmatic. we've seen an extraordinary set of concessions by the americans and the rest of our allies. look, let's keep this in mind, this is a six-month deal. it's a pray lewd to a more comprehensive agreement but there are elements here which are very encouraging.

for one, even though iran is insisting on its, quote, right to enrich uranium which the americans, the brits and others don't want them to have because they have cheated on so much already, they have agreed to basically freeze their program in place and roll back key elements of it. for example, they're not going to do any enrichment over the level of 5 percent we believe. >> right. that's what this says. you're absolutely correct. >> they have 8,000 new centrifuges installed that they were planning to start operating. they now say they're not going to turn them on for the next six months. they also have given some concessions on inspection and here is where i think the americans can kvel a little. what apparently the inspectors will be able to do is to go to fardo and the other enrichment plants and to look at camera

footage of those facilities every single day. that's new and it's important. now, there are going to be people, many allies, the saudis are not going to like the fact that the iranians can enrich at all and are going to be given i think between 6 and $9 billion. >> i'm reading more into the statement. you're absolutely right. $4.2 billion may be cash and as i'm looking at these notes the other concessions have to do with what they can do inside their own country such as petrochemicals and gold and automobiles. they're going to be given sanctions relief on gold, petro and autos. that's a huge amount. that would almost double that dollar amount i spoke of. >> it will. but here's something to keep in mind. this is an interim agreement that was a kind of test of good

faith on the part of the iranians. in other words, have they really changed? we still don't know yet whether or not they're willing to give up this nuclear program. we don't know. but we do know that they've shown a flexibility and a desire, a stated desire, to do more cooperation with us, not only on -- this is going to be the first nuclear deal in over a decade. it's very important. but beyond that, think of all the other areas that we have to talk about and that we're already starting to talk about such as what to do about syria. issues like that that really make our allies, israel, saudi arabia, every uncomfortable because they don't really want the iranians to be playing a kind of role in those developments. i think from an american standpoint it's kind of important that we start to have the conversation.

i don't know whether or not we can believe the iranians or not. >> that was the big question that i have. do me a favor. check your e-mail because i have forwarded you that page long statement from the white house. please read through it. there are a lot of details. i want to go to k.t. mcfarlane. are you on the phone? >> yes. >> fox news security analyst with us now. we were just talking about the topic of trust. can you trust iran on this deal? >> no, you don't trust anybody on these things, particularly not iran which has in the past lied about things and taken nuclear facilities and disguised them and put them where we couldn't find them. then lied about it. but you have to verify. one of the things you look for in any deal we're going to reach, is there an ability to verify that we can trust. they'll say one thing but we have to have proof that they're living up to it. the other issues though and the things to look for in whatever

the agreement is that's going to be announced are three things. are first they have enriched uranium beyond the point of civilian use. what are they going to do with it? are they going to give it up? then the second thing is the centrifuges. even if they got rid of the uranium they'll make more if they continue to use the centrifuges. they have 19,000 centrifuges. that's twice as many centrifuges in iran than we have starbucks. then the third thing is the plutonium reactor in iraq. will they dismantle the that. the earlier reports that came out said the iranians were going to do nothing about that plutonium reactor. that has only one purpose which is to make enriched plutonium for a weapon. what are they going to do with the enriched uranium they have. two, are they going to eliminate the centrifuges even even if you

get rid of the uranium you just make more and then as you pointed out is there an ability to verify the agreement that we have any confidence in. >> you know, k.t., people are watching this, it's a saturday night. they're trying to take all this in. they're seeing on the left of the screen the president is about 13 minutes late on the deal which is monumental and they have to be wondering if you could wipe away all the jargon here and bottom line it, what is the take away of doing a deal with iran when benjamin net yahoo netanyahu said this is bad for the world. >> there are two kinds of deals we're going to get.

one is a good deal where we drop the sanctions, they drop the nuclear program. they want a deal where we drop the sanctions and they pretend to drop the nuclear program. it's the allies in the region that really matter. if they don't believe it's a good deal and a deal that makes their security enhanced, then you're going to see several things happening. first of all you'll see the other countries in the region all want nuclear programs of their own. president obama's proliferation advisor said saudi -- so we need that part of the world if that part of the world is awash in nuclear weapons, five, ten years from now one is going to get

used. we don't want a nuclear arms race in the region. that isn't what the united states and the president feels about the agreement. it's what the other countries in the region feel about it. >> k.t., talk to me about the politics if you will about the situation. i'm seeing into our news room now the white house releasing photographs of president obama with advisers inside the oval office on iran this evening and how much has been going on that we didn't know was happening necessarily. we thought there might have been some meetings going on in that switzerland hotel after they said they officially finished a few hours ago but now we're seeing all these photo ops. i understand with something like this they would have documented history along the way but what are the politics. >> every administration i've been part of, at the end of the administration sort of two years before it's over everybody is looking for a legacy. in this case the legacy was supposed to be obama care but that's a disaster so they need a

new legacy. syria didn't work. israeli peace talks is not going to be the legacy. iran is so there is a motivation on the part of the president to get a deal with iran, maybe any deal. the worry is that he's so eager for a deal that he'll sign a deal that is not going to make us any safer. what they will do though is they will pretend or present this and if it's not a good deal they will present it anyway as something that's historic significance on the line of nixon going to china or ronald reagan winning the cold war. the proof will be what do the other countries in the region think about it. if they don't believe it's a good deal they're going to try to get nuclear weapons of their own. >> you talk about a frightening race for nuclear weapons in that part of the world if that were to happen. >> it's not just that. if iran appears to be the country with the nuclear weapons in that part of the world, that will give it a certain status

that iran will become the dominant power in the entire persian golf region. >> how did we get to the point where iran could hold not just two days but into a fifth day of talks with six world powers? they didn't get anything up to even get to the table. what did they do to earn the right to get so much attention? >> the united states, president obama wants a deal. the other countries want a deal, too, because to them iran is an economic opportunity. they want to trade with iran. in the case of china, they want iran's oil. in the case of russia, they want to sell weapons to iran. they want to build some of iran's facilities. >> i'm getting a two-minute warning from inside this room where the president is getting ready to speak in just a moment. judith miller has just hit me

back on e-mail and our viewers are tweeting me that they can hear me typing as i'm talking with you guys via keyboard. the big headline in all of this is that the president is getting ready to speak on a deal with iran. let's pause. the reason i have paused is because we now are reaching out to all of our fox broadcast stations from across the nation and inviting them into our coverage now so that we are now fox news channel and across all fox broadcast stations. we are inside a two-minute warning as president obama gets ready to speak to the nation and the world about a deal over iran's nuclear program which had been reached this evening in geneva, switzerland. our secretary of state john kerry among the six world power leaders who were around a negotiation table trying to get iran to dial back its nuclear

program. we have had several fox news contributors by phone. as soon as the president speaks we will also go back, speak with them and do a little analyses of this deal. drips and drabs for those people who are just joining us have been coming in. the sticking point, would iran stop enriching uranium and doing what the world thought was moving toward a weapon with its nuclear program, or would they dial that back. if they would, what would it cost us. the president expected to tell us at least in some detail about that deal. we've gotten forward word from the white house in a statement exactly what they are giving up. iran, of course, is seeking relief from economic sanctions that have crippled that country monetarily. they want some relief. we're told the president of the united states is here and now. >> good evening. today the united states together

with our close allies and partners took on important first step toward a comprehensive solution that addresss our concerns with the islamic republic of iran's nuclear program. since i took office, i've made clear my determination to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. as i've said many times, my strong preference is to resolve this issue peacefully and we've extended the hand of diplomacy. yet, for many years, iran has been unwilling to meet its obligations to the international community. so my administration worked with congress, the united nations security council and countries around the world to impose unprecedented sanctions on the iranian government. these sanctions have had a substantial impact on the iranian economy and with the election of a new iranian president earlier this year, an opening for diplomacy emerged. i spoke personally with president rowhani of iran earlier this fall.

secretary kerry has met multiple times with iran's important minister and we have pursued diplomacy bilatly and with our partners, the united kingdom, germa germany, and russia, today that opened up a future in which we can verify that iran's nuclear program is peaceful and that it cannot build a nuclear weapon. today's announcement is just a first step, it achieves a great deal. for the first time in nearly a decade we have halted the progress of the iranian nuclear program and key parts of the program will be rolled back. iran has committed to halting certain levels of enrichment and neutralizing part of its stock piles. iran cannot use its next generation centrifuges for

urani uranium. it cannot install or start up new centrifuges and its production will be limited. iran will halt work at its plutonium reactor and inspections will allow the international community to verify whether iran is keeping its commitments. these are substantial limitations which will help prevent iran from building a nuclear weapon. simply put, they cut off iran's most likely path to a bomb. this will create time and space over the next six months to fully address our comprehensive concerns about the iranian program. because of this agreement, iran cannot use negotiations as a cover to advance its program. on our side, the united states and our friends and allies have agreed to provide iran with modest relief while continuing to apply our toughest sanctions.

we will refrain from imposing new sanctions and we will allow the iranian government access to a portion of the revenue that they have been denied through sanctions. but the broader architecture of sanctions will remain in place and we will continue to enforce them vigorously. if iran did not fully meet its commitments we will turn off relief and ratchet up the pressure. we will work to negotiate a comprehensive solution. we approach these negotiations with a basic understanding. iran like any nation should be able to access peaceful nuclear energy. but because of its record of violating its obligations, iran must accept strict limitations that make it impossible to develop a nuclear weapon. in these negotiations, nothing will be agreed to unless everything is agreed to. the burden is on iran to prove to the world that its nuclear

program will be exclusively for peaceful purposes. if iran seizes this opportunity, the iranian people will benefit from rejoining the international community and we can begin to chip away at the mistrust between our two nations. this would provide iran with a dignified path to forge a new beginning with the wider world based on mutual respect. if on the other hand, iran refuses, it will face growing pressure and isolation. over the last few years congress has been a key partner in imposing sanctions on the iranian government and that bipartisan effort made possible the progress that was achieved today. going forward we will continue to work closely with congress. however, now is not the time to move forward on new sanctions because doing so would derail this promising first step, alienate us from allies and risk unraveling the coalitions that enabled sanctions to be in force

in the first place. that international unity is on display today. the world is in support of our determination to prevent iran from developing a nuclear weapon. iran must know that security and prosperity will never come through the pursuit of nuclear weapons but through agreements that make iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons impossible. as we go forward, the resolve of the united states will remain firm as will our commitments to our friends and allies, particularly israel and golf partners who have good reason to be skeptical about iran's intentions. as president and commander in chief, i will do what is necessary to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. i have a profound responsibility to try to resolve our differences peacefully rather than rush towards conflict. today we have a real opportunity to achieve a comprehensive,

peaceful settlement. the first step that we've seen today marks the most significant progress that we've made with iran since i took office. we must pursue a lasting and comprehensive settlement to resolve an issue that has threatened the security and the security of our allies for decades. through strong and principle diplomacy, the united states of america will do our part on behalf of a world of greater peace, security, and cooperation among nations. thank you very much. >> we've just been watching president obama talk about the deal that's now been reached over iran and its nuclear program. one of the key things that he said is that the broader architecture of sanctions will remain in place. that means that while they will see a pretty large chunk of

monetary relief in terms of economic sanctions, he said this is a six-month window for them to continue if you will, the conversation about dialing down their nuclear program through less enrichment and some other things that they put into place that will help us monitor what's going on in that country in terms of their uranium stock piles and what they're doing specifically with them. the president tonight the first to speak often this. we knew that this deal had come about about two years ago in geneva, switzerland. six all together on one side, iran on the other. as we learn more about this now, we can begin to talk about what's in this deal and what maybe was given up in order to come to this point. we're going to pause again and let our fox broadcast stations get back to their regularly

scheduled program and then we will continue on here on fox news channel. all right, i want to bring in by phone k.t. mcfarlane, fox security analyst. you're initial response. some of the things that we had talked about that the white house had put in a statement that we were anticipating was relief of sanctions. what does a broader architecture of sanctions mean to you when the president says we're still holding their feet to the fire. >> i think that's baloney. once you start releasing the sanctions you're never going to get the ketchup back in the bottle. when he says we're going to be able to reimpose those sanctions if iran doesn't abide by the agreement, no, that's not going to happen. as i said, the other countries in the world all want to do business with iran. so it will be very difficult. it's hard enough to get those countries to go along with sanctions in the first place. once they're lifted it will be

almost impossible to reimpose them. there were in good things in this agreement but not everything was good. he talked about sort of three areas that i was looking at. one, they have enriched uranium already. are they going to get rid of that. the agreement says they will neutralize the enriched uranium. that's a good thing but the agreement says it makes no reference to dismantling the centrifuges, just basically that they're not going to use them but they're not going to take them apart. the other thing is that the other reactor, the plutonium reactor, they're not going to turn on the switch. they're not going to continue to build that but they're not going to dismantle it. while they're getting rid of the enriched uranium, they're not getting rid of the ability to make them. making a nuclear weapon is like baking a cake. you need the ingredients. what are the ingredients?

it's enriched uranium. and we know they have that and they're going to neutralize some of it but they're not going to get rid of the ability to make more cake batter. >> this is a president that has not been able to work closely with congress on much more than you can put on a postage note. >> the democrats in the senate will go along but he has to make sure that he gets the republicans to go along as well because he would need a two-thirds vote to pass the senate. the other thing is there has been criticism on both sides of the aisle who has questioned this. i was part of the reagan administration p and the nixon

administration. i'm with dealing with enemies and add ve saers but only if it makes sense for us. the supreme leader of iran three days ago referred to israel as a stinking dog, a country that needs to be eliminated from the face of the earth. i'm not sure that anybody in jerusalem ors looking at this agreement. >> i know we're not looking at the white house but we have the advantage of you who has worked with administrations before. does the president call israel and its leadership and say, hey, look, i'm about to go on television and tell the world that i've made a deal with iran. are you guys cool with this? >> he should have gotten in touch with the allies that we have in the region, not just israel but saudi arabia, the golf countries, the other sunni

arab states in the region to let them know this is happening. his aides should have gotten on the phone with some of the key members, republicans and democrats in congress to say this is the deal that's going down. it's the president's right to announce this in a dramatic fashion as he's just done but on the other hand he's got a lot of work to do to sell this agreement not just to people in the region but the united states. >> one last question, as we look live at the white house as people are just tuning in to fox news channel, president obama has said that we have reached an agreement with iran over its nuclear program along with other world powers to get them to dial down what they've been doing over there for some sort of weapons program. as you look at this tonight, what will be the headline that will come out of this? that president obama made this

deal, although we know secretary of state john kerry is due to speak at any moment and perhaps we'll hear how it came together, or will it be that iran has somehow gotten everybody to the table without promising anything to get to that point? >> the question is, is it a real deal or a sucker's deal and the devil will be in the details. to me it may not be a sucker's deal but it sure isn't a great deal. at the end of the day the united states needs to be independent of middle east oil. until then we're going to be sucked into every crises in the middle east. when i look at how reagan won the cold war it was by driving down the price of oil, the soviet union's only export. the price of oil would go down. if iran doesn't have oil above

$90 a barrel, they don't meet payroll and their own people get angry and say we want a change. >> k.t. mcfarlane, we appreciate your expertice and your perspective tonight. thank you, my friend. >> thank you, harris. >> let's bring in fox news military analyst by phone this evening. we're also keeping -- if we can split screen this we'll see on the right side of the screen iranian leadership walking out of this meeting. we are standing by to see -- of course it's live television so when satellites go up and down, don't panic. john kerry expected to speak momentarily. we'll bring you that live when it happens. major general you're with us? >> i am. good evening. >> good evening. what's your first response to hearing some of the details come out from the white house tonight? >> i am very, very skeptical. this has overtones of the iron clad deal we had with north

korea a few years ago. there is no strategic reason why iran should not develop a nuclear weapon. it is in their vital national interest to have a nuclear weapon so they can deter western powers, particularly the united states and israel from getting into their business. it dials back sanctions which can never be restored in the international community and it allows iran to keep the essence, the bones, if you will, as k.t. said, in place. so at a moment's notice they can restart the refinement of plutonium but it's virtually impossible for the united states and the west to reimpose these sanctions which were so extremely difficult to build in the first place.

>> the president talking tonight about how he's going to work with congress to make sure that they don't try to push for more sanctions. quote from senator kirk, i share the president's goal of finding a solution to prevent iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability but this deal appears to provide the world with billions of dollars in exchange for cosmetic concessions. i will continue working with my colleagues to craft bipartisan legislation that will impose economic sanctions if the dismantlement of the infrastructure is not under way by the end of the six month period. what does this tell you?fact, this town, deals in the next

election. they've been at this for two decades and they are very, very patient people. they're able to continue their program for the evolutionary development of nuclear weapons. the only thing they're missing is enough material to build a bomb. they're almost there. if anybody tries to tell you that anything short of dismantling their program, dismantling that plutonium reactor. it's only good for one thing and that's a nuclear weapon. there's no such thing as plutonium for peace. the fact this reactor remains under construction, the fact that they continue to have all of the facilities that they need to continue the collection of

material while the western powers now give up any sanction leverage that they will ever have in the future. you'll never get five nation, two of which are russia and china, ever to go back into the sanction business again. as far as i'm concerned this may turn out to be swimmingly successful. in 1994, clinton said the same thing. >> wow. that really kind of says it all right there. that's an image we have vong st in our minds. major general bob scales on the line with us now. i'm hooked into social media. people can hear me clicking. they want me to get a new school keyboard. i should do that. i don't know if this would have been the context. i'm seeing so much of it mentioned. i'm wondering why he wouldn't. do you think that came into the

process? >> absolutely not. this is echelons above anyone. >> what do you mean by that? >> what i mean is the great wisdom, as far as i'm concerned, is not with the united states or with the p5. it's with those that are iranian's neighbors. they have a sixth sense for this. they have an intuitive feel about the true intentions which is sadly far beyond our ability to sense. the fact that israel and sathey have a sense. >> would you allow me to interrupt for the secretary of state john kerry? >> of course. >> it's been a long day, long

night. i'm delighted to be here to share some thoughts with you about this negotiation. i want to thank the swiss government. i want to thank the united nations. we're honored to be here even at this very early hour of the morning. i particularly want to thank my colleagues from the united kingd kingdom, germany, france, russia, china and especially lady ashton who is not only good friend but a persistent and d dogged negotiator and somebody who has been staying at this for a long period of time. we're grateful for her stewardship of these negotiations. if i can take a moment i really want to thank the team from the united states. they've been a great many people involved in this effort for a

long period of time now. both here in switzerland with us but also back in the united states. they know who they are. i will single out our undersecretary of state wendy sherman who has been a dogged, unbelievably patient and skillful hand. she's helped through long and arduous months, years of stewardship of our party with this. i'm grateful to her with those long efforts and all of her team. at the united nations general assembly in september, president obama asked me and our team to work our partners in order to pursue a negotiated settlement with respect to the international communities. concerns about iran's nuclear

program. last month month they entered into an accelerated negotiation after a number of years and meetings to engage iran in serious negotiations. the purpose of this is simple. to acquire iran to prove the peaceful nature of its nuclear program and to ensure that it cannot acquire a nuclear weapon. the reason for this is very clear. the united nation security council have found they were not in compliance with mtp or other iaea and other standards. obviously, activity such as a secret, multi-centrifuge hide away which was used for enrichment raised many people's

questions which is why under all the circumstances matly sanctions were put in place. today we are taking a serious step toward answering all of those important questions that have been raised through the united nations security council, through the iaea and by individual countries. we're taking those steps with an agreement that impedes the progress in a very dramatic way of iran's principle enrichment facilities and parts of its program and ensures it cannot advance in way that will threaten our friends in the region, threaten other country, threaten the world. the fact is that if this step, first step, leads to what is our

ultimate goal, which is a comprehensive agreement, that will make the world safer. this first step, i want to emphasize, rolls back the program to where it is today. enlarges the break out time, which not have occurred unless this agreement existed. it will make our partner in the region safer. it will make our ally israel safer. this has been a difficult and prolonged process. it's been difficult for us. it's been difficult for our allies and it's obviously been difficult for the government of iran. the next phase, let me be clear, will be even more difficult. we need to be honest about it. it will also be even more

conseque consequential. the fact is this agreement could not have been reached without the decision of the iranian government to come to the table and negotiate. i want to say tonight that foreign minister zarif worked hard, deliberated hard and we are obviously, we believe better the decision was made to come here than not to and to work hard to reach an agreement. we thank the foreign minister for those efforts. together now we need to set about theof proving to the world what iran has said many times. that its program